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I tried to connect my Edge to the Connect Garmin website on my Macbook. I found this page for assistance.
Looking at getting the and this review was really helpful. My question is I noticed this review was written in April of last year. Is Garmin expected to release another version in the next few weeks? My brain, however, tells me that Garmin is less expensive, has more features, and will work best with my Tacx Neo trainer.
I decided on the over wahoo last year. Personally I prefer all uploading and downloading via WiFi rather than Bluetooth and can use phone hotspot for that if needed. Battery life is exceptional compared to older devices. At first I was sceptical about the auto screen brightness being a battery drain. The deal breaker was wanting north up always on the map.
Thank you for your comment. You provided exactly the feedback that I was looking to read. I just order my self element bolt on the end. My garmin has 3 years now and battery sucks. And i dont need maping a lot,mainly training and battery is my priority. Paul Thank you for your detailed comment. The smaller one will be the base maps and of no interest. The larger one called gmapsupp. The only seems to support this file name for maps. You can have two though, one on the Edge and another in the SD card.
The Edge is a bit more versatile. These then appear in the menu when you start up the device. Seeing as the has something around 14Gb of storage you can load a lot of map files to test them out. The OSM maps are fine but i find them a bit cluttered on screen for fast road cycling.
While there are some settings that fiddle with the detail the pure roads and some major scenery of the City Navigator maps is my prefered choice for fast road. The OSM style is great for touring or walking though and activity profiles can have different default maps. If you travel somewhere else in the world you can get the OSM files from somewhere on the internet and just upload for the duration.
All pretty easy via a PC. This is a designed in force storage mode. Paul Thanks again — this all worked very smoothly — was able to transfer my Europe map from my old perfectly. To start with: these in-depth reviews are simply great and give answers to almost all your questions before even asking them.
A big thinks! In other words, will Garmin Connect combine and act like a sort of hub all data and display it on my watch, or will I not see the ride-related data on my watch if I log it with the Edge ? It never merges the two properly for me, but maybe a settings problem? Edge issues. I recently purchased the Edge I have some issues with workouts, specifically intervals.
I have downloaded a specific interval workout from Garmin connect into the However, on the Edge after the interval session ended a message appeared that the workout is completed, and prompted you to save it. The timer stopped with the completion of the last section of the workout.
This is the way it is supposed to be, and would have expected it to be on the new unit. On a chat session regarding this issue the Garmin rep told me that the way the works is the way it is suppose to, and all Edges work! When you download the workout data in to Garmin connect, and select the interval tab the Normalized power and the left-right balance data is missing from the individual intervals sections.
This issue did not happen in the Edge I have tested various interval workouts, and all show the same result. I have spoken to Garmin regarding these issues, sent the workout files, and videos of issue 1. On issue 2 I was told that it had been reported before.
After calling Garmin and sending the files and videos still waiting for an answer. Looks like I have to go back using the Any info on these issues will be appreciated. Maybe someone can help me with. I am trying to see my torque value with the Garmin , however I am not able to produce it. Any suggestions?
Are there any apps out there that allow me to see all the metrics the P2M NG powermeter shows? And did you toggle the torque effectiveness option within settings on the power meter under sensors? I connected to the PM via their app and noticed torque effectiveness was turned off. I did turn it on and gave it a test. Is there any way to disable virtual partner on the map screen when following a course?
It is completely useless to me, and it takes up valuable screen space. I like to look at the map screen while following a course and not have those dumb arrows blocking the map. Any solution to remove? Thank you! It will always have a screen for the virtual partner. The more people we get added, the better chance we have of it being implemented. Do you think if you mount a computer on the top tube of the mountain bike, near the stem, would the accuracy be affected when riding downhill with your chest lower to the bars?
Thanks Ray for your review, it helped me to choose this device over Wahoo Bolt. I can change only to courses which are already saved on the device, or point to a place on a map and then Edge will calculate my route, as mentioned in the review. Does Wahoo have this feature? Hi — is there an answer to whether the virtual partner can be turned off on the please?! Virtual partner does not show up for me as an option under the data screens menu.
Are you sure you have that on the ? Yes, the E does support it. It is possible the menu items may shift a bit depending on the firmware version, but it all should be in there somewhere with the latest version. When in doubt, make a copy of your favorite Activity Profile and then experiment with that. Hi Ray, Can you hear the beeper when the unit is on an out-front mount? I have a plus right now and the beeper is almost inaudible unless I mount it on the stem.
I guess the speaker is pointed down. Well, I returned my because of low beep volume. Luckily, the Bolt that I was going to replace it with now supports the Varia Radar and the beep is loud enough. Thanks Erick. I have the Wahoo and recently purchased the Edge Explore, but could barely see the Edge screen in average daylight conditions. Is the improved in this regard? By using the auto screen brightness, it reeds perfect in all conditions.
Both the data screens as the navigation map. Also when sending Komoot routes to the it only receives the waypoints but not the routes in between and tries to figure its own routes which is not helpful. I have a largely been unsuccessful using courses with my E and E On one hand, they must work for the majority of users or the number of complaints would be higher.
All my test courses are in areas that ought not challenge GPS signals. The resulting track looks correct after the ride. Tried short courses and long courses. Hi, i was riding with my friends together with roadbikes and we noticed we are pretty ofter asking what the heart rates and watts are to make sure excersise is good for all.
Is there any app for Garmin edge so that each of us would see real time those datas from other rides on the same ride? That kind of data would make rides even more collaborative. Ray have you ever seen where a Garmin device appears twice in the Bluetooth device of an Iphone 11 in my case and this seems to cause either phone notifications not to work occasionally and causes the auto sync of an activity not to work at all? I have a new and a new Iphone where I cannot get activities to sync between the phone and the garmin unless I forget the device on both and repair.
This is a replacement Iphone as the other was having the same issue. Should the garmin appear twice in the device list? Yes thats not unusual. The establishes two connection. Last weekend we went for a ride away from home. As the start point was on a busy roundabout we could not park there so we parked the car a few Kilometers further up the road along the same gpx route, unloaded the bikes and started there. Unfortunately for most of the ret of the ride the wanted me to turn around and go back to the start point.
This got so annoying I had to switch it off. Does anyone know how to start a circular ride anywhere other than the start point in the GPX file? How to pick in on a circular ride without starting at the start point. When the Garmin asks me to navigate to the start, I say no. What I need to know though, Does the power itself on when you unplug it from charging?
That always drove me bonkers with my Just get the dashes in that field. I know there is a setting somewhere to correct this? Does anyone know how to get the distance and speed to record when using the the Indoor profile? I use a Wahoo Kickr. I used to have a and it registered the speed and distance when I was indoor, but it had connectivity issues.
The instruction manual states, the device includes an indoor activity profile where GPS is turned off. When GPS is turned off, speed and distance are not available unless you have a compatible sensor or indoor trainer that sends speed and distance data to the device.
Any help would be appreciated. I was wondering if anyone can help… Is there a way to enable directional arrows on the course when navigating? This can only be a problem if you disabled turn by turn directions. With turn by turn directions enabled the unit will tell you which way to go ahead of turns — this prompt can either be a small, text-based one or a temporary full map popup which automatically disappears ocne the turn was made. I bought the Edge after reading my the review of the vs the The ease of navigating the device via touch is what I miss.
Especially on mtb trials where in trying to figure out where I am and which way to go. Quick update…. Had my Edge 2 months, and this weekend just gone went to power it up for a family ride and it was dead! Battery fully charged, but nothing showing on the screen.
Having spent the morning on the line to Garmin support, I now have to return the unit for an exchange one. Given I had my Edge for a good 10 years without any issue, I am concerned at how frail these new devices seem to be.
I would say perhaps I have been unlucky, but in my searching for a solution this weekend I came across way too many similar tales of woe. Needless to say, I shall be treating the replacement unit when it arrives with kid gloves. Does the Varia Vision play with the Edge ? I may be able to get a deal aVV, and if so it will be worth the cost of my experiment. On link to raddeluxe.
Including all your pictures, video, data. With my , I could press any button during charge and the screen would light up to show progress I think I could anyway, maybe I have totally misremembered!
I find it quite hard to see the details on the screen without the backlight. I have shimano steps e with an sce display and an edge Garmin indicates that I should be able to display a steps specific data page. I cannot achieve this feat. Can anyone point me to a method that actually works? I really miss doing multiple workouts during a given activity. Today only ONE workout of doing multiple within an activity is binded to the activity.
And i miss to see the workout results, especially the graphical representation, in GCM and GC as well. I only can evalute the workout result on the device itself, but not in the GCM app. I was reaching out to see if I could connect my edge to a steps display on my emtb. Durng this activity I want to do some workouts. Is this strange? Or is it the purose to see a 60km ride as one workout?
I think not. Yes you are right, and this is exactly the way i do, BUT finally completed several Workouts inside this course, after saving this activity, only ONE Workout is to review on the device, just the last one, all the others Workout being made are gone or better to say not more visible or accessible. Yeah, you can execute multiple — but the summary screen only shows the structure of the one. I guess that kinda makes sense. Always a tough balance on features like that.
Ok, got it. So i have now two garmins in order to catch 1 activity aa a whole and the other doing multiple workouts with the equivalent number of activities. Not great to handle. I like my screen to return to data fields once the segment approaching pop up has gone when the segment starts, so I turn off the segment screen.
This part is fine, but then when the segment starts, the screen defaults to the map screen which I do not want to see! I have segments on but segment screen off and even pop up on approach off and yet the map still pops up every time I get near a segment and then does not disappear when the segment starts. Plus, why does the map have my segments all over it all the time? This is another odd feature. Ruins the map not that I use it anyway.
Also, I have KOM set as segment priority and auto effort turned off, yet every time the map pops up on approach which should not even pop up, as it is off it shows my PR, never KOM!! Hello — Anyone knows why the Edge is sold out in a lot of places or with long delivery timelines? My latest issue is the altitude gain has been running quite low for awhile now.
I guess the same principle applies though. I just received my and I wondering whether I totally misunderstood the navigation capability. This is for MTB, by the way. Is this what I should expect? Seems to me that what this device really needs is a computer app that allows you to see all the screens you have set up on the device and edit them from the computer.
Too easy to hit the wrong button and get dropped out of what you are trying to change. Thanks for the great review! Is there anything wrong with my device or is your review way too optimistic in this regard?
There is nothing special in the courses I tried, simple round trips created with the semi-useful garmin connect and synced via iPhone app. I show the routing times in the video, for real-world routes in that range. And on locales that have the densest bike paths in the world. A few mins is pretty long for route calculations of that length. Whats worse is that because you have now moved from where it started its original calculation it gets confused and starts again.
This can go on for quite a while until you either stop or it catches up This method of recalculating along the waypoints with such a slow processor is particularly bad when you create a route along a toepath in Komoot and when you load it in the it decides to steer you along the parallel busy road it seemingly only understands the connecting waypoints not the actual roads. Also we must remember that it has to find a route on its local road database which differs from whatever online tool you used like Garmin Connect, so somethimes it does not see a connection at all and things get really complicated.
The poor little processor is just not up to the job and obviously any smartphone from the last 10 years will do this much much faster, which is why the user experience is so terrible compared to modern portable devices. Maybe the Hammerhea Karoo? Anyone have any expeirence with the new version? Here is video showing the route load times for a short 25k lap link to vimeo.
The road bike is older the Di2 was purchased in April , but as mentioned above the battery tested as fully functional. All Di2 firmware has been updated to the current versions, and the same for the Garmin Di2 wiring was fully checked and a couple wires were replaced, just in case.
Today it was dead. Hello John. I get around 10 to 14 weeks between charges as a regular bike user. You need to remember that the unit is communicating using battery hungry radio to your bike computer. Check for any firmware updates, as there was a recent WU firmware update that I installed and with which I have not experienced any issues. Thank you very much for your response. I really appreciate it. Short version of the story is that in the end it turned out that the issue was one of my shift levers was faulty.
The long version is that the battery started to no longer be able to hold a charge for more than a week so we replaced it under warranty. However it was still draining faster than it should have no riding and it would drain noticeably within a week to 10 days.
So we next tried troubleshooting by removing components. Next was the rear derailleur, then the front, then the left shifter. Each test took about 10 days because the bike needed to sit and we needed to see if the battery drained. My bike shop had been trying to get one but Shimano USA had none and kept pushing back the availability dates.
Once I had that tool, figuring out which component was draining the battery was straightforward. In less than an hour I was able to determine that the right lever was draining the battery!
Shimano shipped a warranty replacement to my bike shop and everything is now, after a year, finally fixed. Just a quick question. The issues are:. Are these now just part and parcel of the Garmin experience? I moved from the old edge series to I got mine on the release date in uk. Battery is excellent, better than expected.
It finds satellites fast and I see not specific issues with altitude, or at least accepting there are always inaccuracies and drifts if weather changes same on old devices. I do sometimes notice it slip 20m off the correct position. Normally the scenario is that I ride under wet trees and then it drifts. Ok, that can happen. This is fixed by pressing stop, then sleep, then wait 30 seconds, unsleep and that forces it to check satellites.
In the past 2 months , every time I stop a ride indoor now it disables the sensors, and have to manualy go on sensors menu to enable them back. It did not happen before. I reset everything back to factory, made sure it has the latest update, and still no better. Is there any solution? First of all: a happy and better to you and your family!
Also, many thanks for such a perfect website! I have some doubts about the use of Bontrager blendr gopro mount with the Ion front light on the Garmin One thing that is baffling me is the exercise load numbers it is producing vs. Conversely, a 90 minute run I did a few days ago burned cals and my HR averaged bpm — the exercise load was 83!!
HR profile was very similar, gradually building to a max of odd for both the run and ride. Can you think why this is happening? However, the first two rides I have done with the Edge have produced extraordinarily high exercise loads which have dragged my 7-day training loads well above the optimal range.
Can I, for example, copy the exact detailed navigation files from device from region A to device from region B? No, the base Garmin files included on your device are actually locked to that specific device from a licensing standpoint. I put a note on the wahoo elemnt review. I have a Garmin and it follows GPX routes pretty exactly, whereas the Wahoo element seems to smooth routes. Could this be due to a sampling rate? Hi, please any idea how many segments can be added to edge ? Hi Ray — thanks for the great information.
Do you have any intel on when the cycling computers will be announced? My old Edge after more than 5 years of usage has really bad battery health. I can wait, if e. Edge Plus will be released in Q2 The only thing that makes me wonder if this is right way is the kind of vendor-lock in Garmin Connect. I am one unhappy user of Wahoo Elemnt.
I have had issues with the Wahoo on mtn bike trials. It also does not track the mtb route well, compared to these other three. I have not had success in support help from Wahoo. The last suggestion was to enter my tire size, which 1 do they use tire size rather than GPS for mileage? I understand the Garmin complaints. I have purchased a to compare to the Wahoo bike, will arrive Friday.
Does anyone test the GPS on mtn bike trails? I have a question regarding Trailforks integration in the Edge vs. Edge Explore. My girlfriend just bought an Edge and I have an Edge Explore. The Trailforks integration seems to be significantly different on the on the all Trailforks trails are visible on the map, as mentioned in the review.
I set my auto pause to stop the timer at 2 mph. This makes it come on sooner stopping at lights for example. The other one actually had auto-pause set to only when stopped so if anything should be more prone to fake movements induced by satelite data noise.
Love you reviews. Not sure how you find the time to do this but I really appreciate it. I have purchased through your links but for some reason never subscribed. It seems that Garmin changed the algorithm on how the Training status is calculated somewhere in and then the data from the 2 device types cannot be merged anymore.
I wrote to Garmin support and the answer I got is that this is the expected behavior by design and I should update my watch to a newer version if I wish having the data together otherwise it will not work. I just have a question though, how do you create a new route on the device using trend line popularity routing? Thank you in advance! I know on my Bolt that worked just fine. They do, as of last summer.
Do I have to recreate old Strava routes? Good to know. My guess based on update history, we are very much in the red poor time to buy, from a FOMO perspective, obviously the is a great device as is. I guess others would agree? I have a big GPS based Gravel KM race end of June… i need a new unit but i dont want to buy something that is ready to be upgraded….
I have the same question, though my is still working, but the battery life is now poo. Well poo if I want to do an IM with it.
Best wishes on your race! Wondering if the length of the course being run through navigation effects that battery drain on the Edge Is it better to break into 5 mile courses, or run as one complete course.
Battery life seems to be hugely extended that way. I assume this is a bug. Hi, you always describe how much accurate is the heigth data recorded by the units, however I would be interested about how would you comment about the accuracy BEFORE going live, especially for ClimbPro.
I am guessing it is related to the cartography stored in the unit. ClimbPro shuold give very useful bunch of information, but being that un-trustworthy it is almost just a toy rather than a tool. This, at least, is my experience, with the road bike in north Italy. Hi Ray, First, thanks for all of the great info, I upgraded to the Edge almost right after it came out, based on your review and have been very happy with it.
I just wondered if you have any opinion on the recent 8. It introduced some new features: like the route cache to speed recalculation, map contrast settings and route arrows along the navigation route in the map view. I had this happen as well, but by removing the device and rediscovering it, it resolved my particular issue.
I used the built in turn by turn navigation method to get across harrogate in the UK. The second time, with the populaterity option, it took a direct route via cycle paths. Garmin is aware of this problem. Anyone else seeing this problem? DC, are you aware of this? Given this is the first comment here mentioning it or on YouTube — out of thousands.
Now typically, that works itself out, but there are cases with some sports drinks and such that might get in and solify there that are tougher.
Simple question — does the navigation on this work better than on the edge i. Here is a timed example of a route being loaded on the : link to vimeo. In some ways, Garmin gets penalized rightly or wrongly for visually showing them loading the entire route.
Notice how in your video, roughly 2. OK, so if I start to ride the loading screen will automatically disappear and it will move to navigation mode immediately? If that is the case then I agree with you that the loading screen is not only an utter waste of space but also counter productive.
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